Showing posts with label wilders. Show all posts
Showing posts with label wilders. Show all posts

Saturday, October 09, 2010

Tractatus theologico politicus vs Wilt, wilder, wildst

Zwijgrecht, Amstelodamum exemplo, coram judice justificandam damnandam ?

The example of Amsterdam, condemned by justifying it before a judge of veroordeeld door het rechtvaardigen ten overstaan van een rechter. nec jactare erubescant, in skand te gooien.

Spinoza in TTP XX;
'where attemps are made to deprive men of (their freedom of judgement), and when the opinions of dissenters, not their wills, which alone are capable of moral error, are called into account, the punishment inflicted on good men seems more like martyrdom then punishment'

Tractatus theologico-politicus - Baruch Spinoza;

What greater misfortune for a state can be conceived then that honourable men should be sent like criminals into exile, because they hold diverse opinions which they cannot disguise? (20:55)

What, I say, can be more hurtful than that men who have committed no crime or wickedness should, simply because they are enlightened, be treated as enemies and put to death, and that the scaffold, the terror of evil-doers, should become the arena where the highest examples of tolerance and virtue are displayed to the people with all the marks of ignominy that authority can devise?

(20:70) I have thus shown - Barauh Spinoza

I. (20:71) That it is impossible to deprive men of the liberty of saying what they think.

II. (20:72) That such liberty can be conceded to every man without injury to the rights and authority of the sovereign power, and that every man may retain it without injury to such rights, provided that he does not presume upon it to the extent of introducing any new rights into the state, or acting in any way contrary to the existing laws.

III. (20:73) That every man may enjoy this liberty without detriment to the public peace, and that no inconveniences arise therefrom which cannot easily be checked.

IV. (20:74) That every man may enjoy it without injury to his allegiance.

V. (20:75) That laws dealing with speculative problems are entirely useless.

VI. (20:76) Lastly, that not only may such liberty be granted without prejudice to the public peace, to loyalty, and to the rights of rulers, but that it is even necessary for their preservation.


(20:77) For when people try to take it away, and bring to trial, not only the acts which alone are capable of offending, but also the opinions of mankind, they only succeed in surrounding their victims with an appearance of martyrdom, and raise feelings of pity and revenge rather than of terror.

Uit: Tractatus theologico politicus

Want waar ooit getracht wordt, deze vrijheid af te schaffen en de oorspronkelijke meningen van denkers -- niet hun geest, die alleen kan zondigen -- aan een rechtelijk oordeel te onderwerpen, worden edele mannen tot voorbeeld gesteld. Zij worden dan als martelaren vereerd, het gebeurde prikkelt de medeburgers en wekt eerder hun medeleven, zo niet hun wraaklust, dan vrees op.

En bref, nous avons montré, que cette liberté peut non seulement observer la paix de l'État, la pitié, et le droit du souverain de pouvoir, mais à la préservation de toutes ces choses, même devrait être accordé, pour lequel il était contre les mêmes hommes à emporter du travail et les opinions qu'ils désapprouvent sur, mais pas de l'esprit, qui seuls étaient capables d'erreur morale , dans le jugement, ils sont appelés, sont des exemples de là, dans le ils sont comestibles, comme des martyrs semblent choses qui ont plus, et pour lesquels le reste de la peine plus, et à la merci de,


His ostendimus I. impossibile esse libertatem hominibus dicendi ea, quae sentiunt, adimere. II. hanc libertatem, salvo jure, et authoritate summarum potestatum uniquique concedi, et eandem unumquemque servare posse, salvo eodem jure, si nullam inde licentiam sumat, ad aliquid in Rempublicam tanquam jus introducendum, vel aliquid contra receptas leges agendum. III. hanc eandem libertatem unumquemque habere posse, servata Reipublicae pace, et nulla ex eadem incommoda oriri, quae facile coerceri non possint. IV. eandem salva etiam pietate unumquemque habere posse. V. leges, quae de rebus speculativis conduntur, inutiles omnino esse. VI. Denique ostendimus, hanc libertatem non tantum servata Reipublicae pace, pietate, et summarum potestatum jure posse, sed ad haec omnia conservandum, etiam debere concedi; nam ubi ex adverso eandem hominibus adimere laboratur, et discrepantium opiniones, non autem animi, qui soli peccare possunt, in judicium vocantur, ibi in honestos exempla eduntur, quae potius martyria videntur, quaeque reliquos magis irritant, et ad misericordiam,

Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Islam in Europe: Netherlands: Wilders film roundup

There have been reports from Dutch embassies in Muslim countries saying that things might get critical. The Dutch embassies have warned their citizens of possible negative reactions. Besides threats from the Muslim sector, speculations about its incendiary contents are already making the rounds. Wilders is already being accused of tearing up the Koran in the film.

Bron: Islam in Europe: Netherlands: Wilders film roundup

UPDATE: fitnathemovie.com taken off the network due to complains, provider investigating solutions

Tuesday, February 19, 2008

Politics: Hobby for multi-millionairs

Politics: Hobby for multimillionairs djin-owners and their dark satanic overlords;

Cost of US elections; Obama 197.000.000, Clinton 174.000.000 ( end march 2008 )

" Niet sedert de leeuwen slaven aan parten rijten voor 't pezier van het Romeinse pleps was Europa getuige van een schouwspel zo ongepast als het verschijnen van Hirsi Ali voor het EP. Voor het oog der wereld smeekt een vooraanstaand ingezetene van Nederland de wetgeving van Europa om haar te vrijwaaren van assasijnen wier verklaard
doel de verwoesting van Europeese vrijheden alsook haar beschaving is"

Source: Blessed are the pre-emptors
By Spengler - atimes.com

One might describe Europe’s civil condition as a low-intensity civil war. Outright violence is limited to the sort of rioting by Muslim youth gangs that erupted in France in October 2006, and on a smaller scale in Denmark during the past week. But the threat of violence, including widespread intimidation of public figures, is continuous. Wilders lives under constant police protection. The courageous Ayaan Hirsi Ali, co-maker of the film that cost Theo van Gogh his life in 2004 and the author of a bestselling tract against Islam, remains in constant danger of assassination. Her predicament sets in relief the moral bankruptcy of Europe’s governments.

Not since lions tore apart slaves for the prurient enjoyment of the Roman mob has Europe witnessed a spectacle as revolting as Hirsi Ali’s appearance last week before the European Parliament. She has lived under guard since Theo van Gogh’s murder in 2004. To its shame, the Dutch government has stopped paying for her security. On February 14 she asked the European Parliament to fund her security, saying: "The threats to my life have not subsided and the cost is beyond anything I can pay ... I find myself in a very desperate position. I don't want to die. I want to live and I love life. I'm going to do anything legal to get help."

Before the eyes of the world, a leading citizen of the Netherlands begs the legislature of Europe to protect her against assassins whose declared goal is the destruction of Europe’s liberties as well as its civilization. The Dutch government turns its back. Europe’s Parliament listens politely and refers the matter to committee. A group of French members of parliament has invited her to apply for French citizenship so that the French government might offer her protection.

Thus far, the authorities of Europe have made clear that they will do nothing to prevent the murder of a prominent citizen. If Ayaan Hirsi Ali, whose plea to the European Parliament made headlines, can expect no help from the authorities when her life is at imminent risk, what succor can the anonymous victims of Islamist violence expect?

I am ashamed to say that it did not become clear to me that Wilders has taken the only appropriate course of action until I read carefully the Archbishop of Canterbury’s now-infamous "sharia" speech. Stripped of casuistry, he proposed that Muslim women subject to forced marriages, genital mutilation, or domestic violence should be handed over to Muslim religious courts, rather than be offered the protection of English Common Law. To my knowledge, this is the first time that one of Europe’s spiritual leaders has proposed to abandon innocent victims to their fate.

Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams, to be sure, has a point. But he should have stated plainly what he really thinks. What he wanted to say is more or less: "To protect a few hundred or a few thousand colored ladies, the English state will have to put its big boots on, kick down the doors of Muslim homes, trample through Muslim living rooms, tear up the fabric of Muslim communities, and disrupt the social order. Why not turn such cases over to religious courts and wash our hands of them?" I reiterate: this is satanic hypocrisy.

If decent and well-meaning men like Dr Williams are so afraid of communal violence as to abandon the founding principles of common law and Judeo-Christian ethics, it is long past time to debate the fine points. Blessed are the pre-emptors, for they will get on with it.